(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]
GN[2013 US Open Rd 2 Brd 1 - Jianing Gan 7d (w) Matthew (Zi Yang) Hu 1p (b)]PW[Jianing Gan]PB[Matthew (Zi Yang) Hu]WR[7d]BR[1p]DT[2013-08-05]EV[US Go Congress]RO[2]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Dennis Wheeler]C[toved2 [10k\]: Hello
evave [5k\]: hi
Ootakamoku [2d\]: meh, I opened window and first thought w was gan siyang, but wasnt :(
hallelujah [?\]: yes, because that would make sense
Laudia [6k?\]: what are the settings and when does it start?
toved2 [10k\]: Q16
USGO1 [-\]: TD is making announcements
noi [6k\]: i thought this was blind go :)
toved2 [10k\]: H10
Laudia [6k?\]: is there a live link?
hallelujah [?\]: no
USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to the live coverage of the US Go Congress in Tacoma Washington
Jermelle [-\]: Thanks
toffee [3d\]: AGA 1P is no better than 7d.
Jermelle [-\]: Not true^
hallelujah [?\]: this 1p is chinese 1p
USGO1 [-\]: tournament results can be found here: http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/166
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;B[pd]C[xio [5k\]: I'd say about equal perhaps judging by ranks
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;W[dp]C[hallelujah [?\]: jermelle, a key to keeping your sanity on kgs is to ignore anyone who comments on ranks
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;B[qp]C[noi [6k\]: indeed
toved2 [10k\]: D17
AzureSea [4d\]: i want b to win
forgotmypw [?\]: hallelujah, that's something a person with no rank would say
AzureSea [4d\]: w beat andy T_T
hallelujah [?\]: i have a rank, just not on kgs
xio [5k\]: pro game with live commentary by 10k :)
hallelujah [?\]: i don't like kgs very much
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;W[dd]
;B[fq]C[noi [6k\]: can we keep the discourse from becoming a street brawl?
toved2 [10k\]: K3
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;W[cn]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: hallelujah, only kgs ranks count
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;B[lq]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: I wonder if there is chance w will not play r10?
forgotmypw [?\]: there is
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;W[qj]C[forgotmypw [?\]: but it didn't happen
medical [2k\]: no there was not
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;B[qf]C[sinsai [5d\]: they just played yesterday haha
forgotmypw [?\]: just because you didn't win the lottery does not mean you dont have a chance
Thus [3d\]: it does
Ootakamoku [2d\]: oh true, w could have missclicked
toved2 [10k\]: R5
Ootakamoku [2d\]: my sensei claimed Im trying to overplay when I wanted to play r14 instead of r13
Ootakamoku [2d\]: said w refutation is maybe something like q7
gooooo [-\]: usgo1, awesome that you put the player names in the title :D
Thus [3d\]: q7 is possible
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;W[rn]
;B[op]C[xio [5k\]: how can long extension be overplay over short?
toved2 [10k\]: dont good
Ootakamoku [2d\]: short one claims the corner more
toffee [3d\]: s6 strange
xio [5k\]: ok
Ootakamoku [2d\]: hence its trying to do more, while hopeing w follows the normal opening ignoring the dfference
hallelujah [?\]: s6 has been prayed plofessionally
xio [5k\]: and normal would be two space jump?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: normal would be r13 instead of r14
USGO1 [-\]: I was recording one of Jianing's games last summer, and he made a strange move that we didn't understand.. We asked him about it after the game, he said he "misclicked"
kmr [1d\]: seems R4 was hoshi :)
forgotmypw [?\]: harrerujah, true
FuzzFace [1k\]: b is the nexw pro ? 
Ootakamoku [2d\]: and the fuseki/joseki that follows is very long and convulted
student2 [2k\]: how to pick w or b?
Snuff [3d\]: lol
AzureSea [4d\]: ;o
toved2 [10k\]: rofl
student2 [2k\]: b is a pro
Mentalist [?\]: who are you, USGO1?
xio [5k\]: he's Batman clearly
hallelujah [?\]: he is the scribe
kmr [1d\]: he is our Transcriber^^
hallelujah [?\]: he's a professional wrestler
medical [2k\]: q6 ok?
forgotmypw [?\]: xio, so, he's also the master of round robin?
xio [5k\]: or q7
Ootakamoku [2d\]: medical, to me q6 looks ok
kmr [1d\]: but is it really position on board? shouldnt all bottom right corner moved one line left?
Hobbes [2k\]: make.sense
xio [5k\]: mistakes like that do happen
Minjhou [9k\]: q6, come on!
hallelujah [?\]: q6 would be a nomal move
USGO1 [-\]: in the game I recorded yesterday morning, I was off by one line for about 8 to 10 moves... but today's game is correct so far
overrated [3d\]: i think q6 implies r8 ... and thats what white wants
hallelujah [?\]: stablizes w's weak group
Hobbes [2k\]: how.to.scare.a.scribe.lesson.N°1
kmr [1d\]: so really s6 is in 2nd line...wow first time i see this kind of fuseki
Madzilla [3d\]: seriously, did they set a 20k to record the game?
xio [5k\]: Hobbes, you lazy boy, still using that broken keyboard?
forgotmypw [?\]: usgo1, well, there's the chance that a player cheated and moved the stone too
forgotmypw [?\]: so, no worries
Hobbes [2k\]: ohhhh.yeah.
USGO1 [-\]: I'm sitting right here watching them :\\
Ootakamoku [2d\]: sleight of hand to move the stone?
kmr [1d\]: USGO1 what was black faces, when he saw s6?!
kmr [1d\]: face*
Ootakamoku [2d\]: s6 isnt that weird
Mentalist [?\]: he probably fainted
hallelujah [?\]: can you smoke in the tournament room?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: cho chikun likes s6 style moves if I remember correctly
beispiel [9d?\]: somehow reinforing around r7 or so is normal, but then s6 feels weird
Mentalist [?\]: w will probably play s4
Thus [3d\]: in last pro game with this fuseki w played s4 directly
kmr [1d\]: q6 would make nice shape but this feels not enough for white
Hobbes [2k\]: q6..and.then.whislte.like.nothing.happened
beispiel [9d?\]: It is much better to remember things incorrectly
USGO1 [-\]: Matthew is quite calm in his play, often to the point of looking bored
Thus [3d\]: tenuki also possible
beispiel [9d?\]: yes that's what I propse
Mentalist [?\]: a calm pro player
beispiel [9d?\]: propose
Mentalist [?\]: those are rare
Thus [3d\]: k17 normal
beispiel [9d?\]: f17 looks ok
kmr [1d\]: white played surprise move of s6, and then fallen in deep thinking - thats weird too
USGO1 [-\]: Jianing is sitting back in his chair with his arms crossed, studying the board intensly
svl [11k\]: what is the time limit?
Jermelle [-\]: o.o
hallelujah [?\]: 2hr time limit
svl [11k\]:  thanks
beispiel [9d?\]: that's not weird, because p4 at q5 looks reasonable too
lifeisgood [-\]: top looks biggest
beispiel [9d?\]: Then r7 or so looks great
beispiel [9d?\]: f17 or k17 
No9danGame: Matthew 1p?
kmr [1d\]: g17 is good old style ^^
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;W[qq]C[svl [11k\]: isnt top the biggest point at  a moment? or is w about to start  a fight?
svl [11k\]: yes, w is fighting
xio [5k\]: probing
Babibo [2d?\]: what does w do if black Q3 ?
Mitani92 [3d\]: tenuki
Mitani92 [3d\]: but it's not a probe i'd ever like to play in a game
Babibo [2d?\]: if tenuki, what did w gain ?
kmr [1d\]: white will be left with taking territory with s6 on 2nd line - imho bad, but maybe he have sth special in mind
Mitani92 [3d\]: this one settles s6, but the price is high
xio [5k\]: i saw fan hui play in egc
Ootakamoku [2d\]: babibo, way too much
Ootakamoku [2d\]: how about greedy s4?
Thus [3d\]: s4 q7 
hallelujah [?\]: b cannot tenuki
Mitani92 [3d\]: greedy s4 erases the badness of r3
akairyuu [2d?\]: how much thinking time do these players have?
Thus [3d\]: q3 is good enough
svl [11k\]: 2h time limit
hallelujah [?\]: 120mmin
akairyuu [2d?\]: thanks
Mentalist [?\]: this move looks clever
xio [5k\]: in egc it was 150
awesome [4k\]: it's a misclick
Mitani92 [3d\]: don't judge a book by its cover
Thus [3d\]: that's what covers are for
Mentalist [?\]: after beating andy, jianing becomes more confident
USGO1 [-\]: Matthew hardly looks at the board at all, as he stares off into the distance, and around the room
Ootakamoku [2d\]: its pretty clear how r3 is supposed to work, and indeed its very annoying
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;B[pq]C[Thus [3d\]: enlighten me ootakamoku
hallelujah [?\]: esults: http://tinyurl.com/jwwykww
Ootakamoku [2d\]: s4 s3 r5 r2?
hallelujah [?\]: results*
Thus [3d\]: this is good for black
Ootakamoku [2d\]: or if b doesnt go along, then r3 leaves really nice aji in corner
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;W[qo]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: and w just proved I have no idea what Im talking about
Merlot [1k\]: nice
awesome [4k\]: :)
Ootakamoku [2d\]: I could never ever have imagined r5, this is rly weird move
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;B[rp]
;W[po]
;B[pp]C[hallelujah [?\]: tenuki now? 
Mitani92 [3d\]: making b overconcentrated?
awesome [4k\]: hopefully
Merlot [1k\]: L17
No9danGame: w lose
svl [11k\]: oot, your guess is within the scope of what happens
Mitani92 [3d\]: but i wouldn't dislike this position as b at all
hallelujah [?\]: tenuki is the only thing that makes sense now for w
Hobbes [2k\]: but...w.shape.is.a.ddk.shape
Ootakamoku [2d\]: ya, happy with this as b
Ootakamoku [2d\]: I wouldhave been somewhat unhappy as b in the other variation where w plays s4 instead of r5
MitaniKun [5k?\]: O6
Madzilla [3d\]: imagine the shape without Q3 and R3, and it's still bad for W - and the R3 Q3 exchange makes it even worse
xio [5k\]: 7d can make ddk shapes on purpose :)
awesome [4k\]: maybe w tried to trick?
xio [5k\]: sequence was forced by w
Hobbes [2k\]: and.loose.the.game.on.move.ten?
Mitani92 [3d\]: not a trick
Mitani92 [3d\]: a trick is hard to read
Mitani92 [3d\]: this is more than easy
Ootakamoku [2d\]: considering how w has played sofar Im guessing l3 as next move
awesome [4k\]: yes, tricking  a pro is probably not a good idea
forgotmypw [?\]: l3 is going to be ignored, pretty much
Jhyn [2k\]: if you actually trick him it's a pretty good idea
Demon [3d\]: Does anyone know why Jang Bi isn't playing in the U.S. Open?
forgotmypw [?\]: it's not at all improtant
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;W[fc]C[xio [5k\]: because its Open?
forgotmypw [?\]: (improtant is the word pros use and means important)
svl [11k\]: k3 then?
xio [5k\]: he must have escaped :)
xio [5k\]: f17 looks like trying to catch up
hallelujah [?\]: usgo, did matthew have any facial expression when playing in the lower right?
USGO1 [-\]: Matthew takes a couple of stones out of his bowl and twiddles them between his fingers on the table, as he continues to stare off into the distance
Mitani92 [3d\]: poor guy
Mitani92 [3d\]: bored to death
awesome [4k\]: you should write a novel, usgo1
Mitani92 [3d\]: he'll lose by forfeit
awesome [4k\]: or maybe you have already :)
Hobbes [2k\]: I.would.be.embarassed.having.a.group.like.r5...
radagast1 [9k\]: what's forfeit?
xio [5k\]: disqualification
USGO1 [-\]: Jianing continues to study the board, his haed in this hands, elbows on the table
forgotmypw [?\]: you could write a novel about a game with 10 black groups, and in the end there would be none
hallelujah [?\]: bad posture
Hobbes [2k\]: you.know.people.popping.to.see...and.that.is.my.group...
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;B[ch]C[lphurd: is there a live stream anywhere?
hallelujah [?\]: no
USGO1 [-\]: Matthew gets up from the table for a break
xio [5k\]: lets all do the same
awesome [4k\]: this is the live stream
xio [5k\]: (except USGO1)
xio [5k\]: (sorry USGO)
MitaniKun [5k?\]: I think he's asking about a live video stream
gentoo [-\]: *wanders over to second board*
awesome [4k\]: the best images comes through text
USGO1 [-\]: Matthew returns with two small cups of water
arsouille [23k?\]: Hi, is their a way, USGO1 take a picture and post it somewhere on the web. Just to have an idea of ambiance ?
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;W[nn]C[beispiel [9d?\]: so instead of r3, W s4 s3 r5 q4 would be more interesting
hallelujah [?\]: i'd prefer sketches, tbh
USGO1 [-\]: are you guys ready for this...?
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;B[be]C[forgotmypw [?\]: in watercolor please
beispiel [9d?\]: how small are the cups? A cup?
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;W[bd]
;B[cd]C[AzureSea [4d\]: o.o
hallelujah [?\]: o6 looks so bad, imo
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;W[ce]C[forgotmypw [?\]: o6 is fine
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;B[cc]C[AzureSea [4d\]: o6 ...
beispiel [9d?\]: c15 c17 b17 d15 c14 d17 e16 b14 is a problem for W
Str1fe [3d\]: i don't like o6..
AzureSea [4d\]: a 9d o.o
Gansheng [1p\]: USGO
USGO1 [-\]: there are some photos on the AGA website: http://www.usgo.org/
beispiel [9d?\]: so c15 c17 b14 ?
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;W[bc]
;B[de]C[Gansheng [1p\]: Is Mike Chen at congress?
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;W[cf]
;B[dc]
;W[ed]
;B[bf]
;W[bg]
;B[cg]
;W[df]
;B[bh]
;W[bb]C[USGO1 [-\]: No, I don't believe he is, I haven't seen him
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;B[dr]C[beispiel [9d?\]: b13 is a bit of a loss
nyon: thats too bad :(
Gansheng [1p\]: Thx
hallelujah [?\]: is his aga rank 5d?
hallelujah [?\]: there is a michael chen 5d registered, but i'd think zchen would be 7d
Str1fe [3d\]: i think zchen is 8d
hallelujah [?\]: i mean his aga rank
MikiSayaka [5d\]: left top. . .
Illyria [?\]: he's not on the list of players attending
MikiSayaka [5d\]: I love white's territory. . .
MikiSayaka [5d\]: black looks playing a lot of tesujis but don't see the effective. . .
MitaniKun [5k?\]: C17 is dead?
MikiSayaka [5d\]: so dead
hallelujah [?\]: yes
nyon: is Andy playing today?
hallelujah [?\]: surely he is
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;W[ck]C[Illyria [?\]: yes, but it's not being recorded
MikiSayaka [5d\]: oops...
hallelujah [?\]: but he lost so he is not a top board
nyon: bummer
MikiSayaka [5d\]: 38th move winning move
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;B[ef]C[MikiSayaka [5d\]: gate would be get another gote. . .
arsouille [23k?\]: thanks for link with picture.
MikiSayaka [5d\]: I says b 
MikiSayaka [5d\]: c9 shouldn't be a crisis as theoery for black's imagination . . .
MikiSayaka [5d\]: if he have to get thick with gate, his imagination is break. .
svl [11k\]: e14 e15 d13? or a fancier plan?
awesome [4k\]: what is a gate
awesome [4k\]: ?
MikiSayaka [5d\]: f12 softer. . .
awesome [4k\]: oh gote?
MikiSayaka [5d\]: gata * or gate 
USGO1 [-\]: Matthew steps away again
Gansheng [1p\]: Black leading
MikiSayaka [5d\]: e12 f12 next for e.t.c
No9danGame: w lose yes
gooooo [-\]: usgo1, isn't andy liu playing?
hallelujah [?\]: he is
hallelujah [?\]: but he lost so not a top board
gooooo [-\]: oh :/
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;W[dg]C[Machinery [1d\]: Zchen isn't attending the Congres
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;B[eh]C[Machinery [1d\]: He's still in NJ
WackOu [2d\]: so this is what B had in mind
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;W[dh]
;B[di]
;W[ee]
;B[eg]
;W[de]C[WackOu [2d\]: and this is what W
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;B[cj]C[MikiSayaka [5d\]: .what. . .can't believe white would d12
hallelujah [?\]: pretty shape for w
MXHero [4d\]: w must cut now, i guess?
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;W[ff]C[MXHero [4d\]: wow
MikiSayaka [5d\]: should just go back quietly. .
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;B[bk]
;W[cq]
;B[kc]C[MikiSayaka [5d\]: Ah...
MikiSayaka [5d\]: yes
MikiSayaka [5d\]: R3
MikiSayaka [5d\]: was overplay. . .
WackOu [2d\]: can't help but feel B is ahead
MikiSayaka [5d\]: should normally s4. . .
WackOu [2d\]: B is just so dominant and decisive. W seems to be struggling to find responses
WackOu [2d\]: left side of the bottom seems like a natural direction to go to, next, but I can't see a way in
WackOu [2d\]: Maybe W does something weird like p18
joenosai [4k\]: very interesting game
svl [11k\]: why not p17 then instead?
WackOu [2d\]: p17 -> q17 leads to awkward shape for W
svl [11k\]: then either jump to n17, or invade the corner
svl [11k\]: ic
Merlot [1k\]: h3
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;W[hq]
;B[fo]C[WackOu [2d\]: living would be really difficult after, and B would already have secured profit by closing the corner
WackOu [2d\]: i'm not ruling it out, but I wouldn't play that. Maybe 7d disagrees :p
MXHero [4d\]: w must show that O6 is perfect
WackOu [2d\]: this fight seems troublesome for W
pacman3 [3k\]: h3 looks a bit weak now 
WackOu [2d\]: nothing to gain, that I can see
WackOu [2d\]: just a weak group that W must make live. How can 1 stone be heavy? :(
lance [1d\]: black is getting all the good points
lance [1d\]: B9 L17
maxkoehl [8k\]: w H5 ? to live
WackOu [2d\]: Earlier, W played f14 instead of e11 cut. I think this area was the reason for that, W would've stood to lose that E11 cutting stone with this fight, had W played that, leaving W shape weaker all around
SColbert [4d\]: challenging game for w
lance [1d\]: h3 area small
MXHero [4d\]: if w had e11, the game would look nothing like this
WackOu [2d\]: W had to enter, as far as I could tell. K4, L4, H4, K3 or some move like that seemed necessary to me
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;W[ho]C[WackOu [2d\]: B h4 would've been pretty huge
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;B[fm]
;W[cl]
;B[bl]
;W[bm]
;B[dm]C[lance [1d\]: white gote
svl [11k\]: was the top left going along fuseki? Or it was an unusual openning?
USGO1 [-\]: so far, white has used almost 45 mins, and black only 15
MXHero [4d\]: nothing wrong with gote
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;W[bj]
;B[aj]C[MitaniKun [5k?\]: how many minutes do they start with?
xio [5k\]: 120
No9danGame: s6 lost the game
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;W[dj]
;B[ci]C[MXHero [4d\]: lol no, S6 is a fine move
MXHero [4d\]: and the game is not lost
lance [1d\]: bkack 3 stones now stronger
fly [2k\]: My money is on the pro.
hallelujah [?\]: are you kidding me, mx? it's move 60, game is so over
MXHero [4d\]: hehe
Hobbes [2k\]: is.w.follow.up.to.s6.standard.as.well?
MXHero [4d\]: yeah, rest is just endgame :)
No9danGame: at high level the game is decided in the beginning
lance [1d\]: lower right so strong
MXHero [4d\]: just look through any pro game at all, and you'll see that that is not true
No9danGame: if you ever listened to pro commentary you will know it is true
fly [2k\]: And, what points does w have? And what potential.
No9danGame: 1 mistake in the beginning and you lose
MXHero [4d\]: lol i am not having this argument here
No9danGame: good
Hobbes [2k\]: i.think.w.made.things.even.worst.after.s6.by.trying.to.display.cleverness
xio [5k\]: 1 mistake anytime and you lose at some level
Tabemasu [2d?\]: you shouldn't have this argument anywhere
WackOu [2d\]: I'm a bit unsure if this qualifies as "game over" situation
MXHero [4d\]: agreed, tabe
frozensoul [-\]: i dont think its quite game over yet o.o
WackOu [2d\]: W is behind by a lot, but mostly I'm worried by how W seems to have no plan to turn this around
Hobbes [2k\]: i.would.have.just.q6.and.hoped.to.pass.the.winter
fly [2k\]: Sure, lotsa moves to play, but b has a nice lead (and is a pro! so he's not likely to make boneheaded mistakes (like I would)).
WackOu [2d\]: Myself, I can easily imagine myself resigning here
MXHero [4d\]: again, b only has to make a pro-level mistake to turn the game around
xio [5k\]: b has like 40 points or am i missing smthg?
lance [1d\]: yes too early for resign
SColbert [4d\]: yes
SColbert [4d\]: b about 45 ish
SColbert [4d\]: w is may 37
SColbert [4d\]: w include komi 
SColbert [4d\]: so b has considerable lead
WackOu [2d\]: B groups nice and solid. W then again weak all around, giving B lots to play with. W has virtually nothing. Poke around E3 a bit, but that's it
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;W[cm]C[WackOu [2d\]: F3 i mean
MXHero [4d\]: yes, viewed through our extremely ama-level eyes, w has "nothing"
SColbert [4d\]: e10 is thick move
frozensoul [-\]: i think white has a lil bit
Mitani92 [3d\]: i like getting thickness with e10 now
frozensoul [-\]: top right is semi open
death101 [?\]: black doesnt have much secure points
MXHero [4d\]: now all we have to do is remember that go is not a trivial game, and voila, there is probably something here
svl [11k\]: w can set up attack on E11 to get a wall. Cant he?
Mitani92 [3d\]: but wouldn't be surprised by a move like l15
SColbert [4d\]: e10
SColbert [4d\]: then b can attack w weak group
USGO1 [-\]: and don't  forget, Jianing placed 3rd last year in our AGA Professional Certification tournament, where only the top two were granted Professional status
WackOu [2d\]: mxhero. Yes. A resign sequence hidden in these layers of exhausted potential
No9danGame: who 1st and 2nd?
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;B[cr]
;W[br]C[death101 [?\]: blacks losing in my oppion
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;B[hl]C[WackOu [2d\]: But meh. Like I said, I'm not saying W should resign. Just saying it's looking very bad
frozensoul [-\]: andi liu and i forget the second
USGO1 [-\]: Andy Liu and Gangsheng Shi
xio [5k\]: great news 17!
SColbert [4d\]: l3
No9danGame: thank you
Hobbes [2k\]: the.pro.should.comment.board.two.seriusly...
AzureSea [4d\]: w actually not in bad shape
AzureSea [4d\]: he might beat 2 1p in a row xD
SColbert [4d\]: w lost to 1p 
SColbert [4d\]: last night
No9danGame: w is very strong yes
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;W[lo]C[No9danGame: saw his game, yesterday I guess
No9danGame: but this game he is very behind
MXHero [4d\]: yes, very = about 5-10 points :)
No9danGame: thats a lot
death101 [?\]: if black fixes top right I dont ses much hope for white
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;B[jq]C[MXHero [4d\]: ok
frozensoul [-\]: its a lot if ur 9p
frozensoul [-\]: xP
MXHero [4d\]: just framing the conversation for everybody who normally thinks a lot is 20+
frozensoul [-\]: most amature and lower dan pros have terrible endgame
death101 [?\]: hi frozen
AzureSea [4d\]: hm
frozensoul [-\]: 5-10 pts might be easier to make up u never know D
AzureSea [4d\]: oh hey mx xD
frozensoul [-\]: :D*
SColbert [4d\]: k5 
frozensoul [-\]: hey death
MXHero [4d\]: hey azure :) and frozen
Jermelle [-\]: I wonder if Jianing is gonna take the pro exam this year as well
WackOu [2d\]: Strength doesn't really matter, moves, positions and results do :p
AzureSea [4d\]: lol u ready to predict moves again xD
lance [1d\]: R5, Q5 aji keshi
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;W[gn]
;B[fn]C[xio [5k\]: if he was third, this year should be first
]
;W[jn]
;B[jl]C[frozensoul [-\]: wackou if blacks endgame sux he mght still lose
frozensoul [-\]: u never knwo
frozensoul [-\]: assuming white can hold out untill then =)
fly [2k\]: Is w gaining any points?
lance [1d\]: dame
WackOu [2d\]: Well, a plan emerges. W makes shape and basically secures two groups
SColbert [4d\]: w non weak group
AzureSea [4d\]: well w managed to make f3 a weak group
MXHero [4d\]: F14 is looking extremely correct now
AzureSea [4d\]: f3 not alive yet
SColbert [4d\]: and got sente
death101 [?\]: whites securing group
death101 [?\]: fir sente
svl [11k\]: w has to survive bottom while b makes a wall..
SColbert [4d\]: so w got better result
MXHero [4d\]: and O6 seems to be well-placed
MXHero [4d\]: and since w is not entirely thick here, R10 still looks like a proper distance
SColbert [4d\]: b did something wrong
AzureSea [4d\]: yea  o6 looks nice
xio [5k\]: usgo3 is this board so far
AzureSea [4d\]: e10 e11 g7 
MXHero [4d\]: so if we forget how much we think we hate w's position, we can finally believe the game is playable for both :)
Jhyn [2k\]: Apology for re-correction, this is actually a chess server
frozensoul [-\]: i never hated either side mx ^_^
AzureSea [4d\]: lol
MXHero [4d\]: me neither, but it's a tough crowd today
USGO1 [-\]: Cathy Li 1p will be commenting on this game on USGO3
SColbert [4d\]: w has n3 to reduce
death101 [?\]: I like both
frozensoul [-\]: let them were their beer goggles 
AzureSea [4d\]: white might be looking at r17
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;W[mq]C[passstab [5k\]: s/chess/reversi/
death101 [?\]: hmm 8 points :s
SColbert [4d\]: b has no good answer
WackOu [2d\]: I'm almost certain there is a cut near l6 or j6 here that n3 is all about, but I don't see it :(
student2 [2k\]: is it too early for b  to secure the R U corner?
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;B[mr]C[lance [1d\]: black p17 would be big if he gets a chance to play it
]
;W[pc]C[MXHero [4d\]: student: no, that area is extremely important, but it feels like w will get to play there
AzureSea [4d\]: lol called it
AzureSea [4d\]: 1 line away :P
frozensoul [-\]: whites catching up ^_^
SColbert [4d\]: now w caught up
AzureSea [4d\]: :)
AzureSea [4d\]: isnt white rly young
MXHero [4d\]: harumph, i still think w didn't 'catch up' at all; we were catching up to understanding his plan :)
AzureSea [4d\]: lol
]
;B[qc]
;W[oc]
;B[qb]C[WackOu [2d\]: W took sente. That's usually good when trying to catch up, but that alone isn't enough
]
;W[ne]C[AzureSea [4d\]: l17 in trouble
rubbish [9k?\]: is there no time limit on these games?
AzureSea [4d\]: there is
WackOu [2d\]: 120min for both
WackOu [2d\]: I think?
T4L0N [1k\]: Byo?
rubbish [9k?\]: is this live or a replay?
WackOu [2d\]: Live
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;B[lm]C[student2 [2k\]: b plays very fast like yesterday
AzureSea [4d\]: m6
MXHero [4d\]: that is a beautiful b move
student2 [2k\]: is he a robot?
WackOu [2d\]: No idea about byo. W had used 45min, B 15min the last time those numbers were announced
AzureSea [4d\]: lol no
WackOu [2d\]: It might also be time settings are 90min for both...
svl [11k\]: m6 then n6 cut, right?
WackOu [2d\]: Don't remember, USGO1 can confirm
lance [1d\]: talk about taking sente
Illyria [?\]: time settings were 2 hours per side yesterday, so I assume they're the same today
rubbish [9k?\]: why is thismove beautiful?
Illyria [?\]: and 5x1:00 byoyomi
WackOu [2d\]: I don't see it. But then again, my reading sucks :)
frozensoul [-\]: it presses the thinness in whites shape more or less
USGO1 [-\]: white has an hour left on his clock, black still has 1:40
student2 [2k\]: k5
TheKing14 [30k?\]: these guys are good
AzureSea [4d\]: lol
MXHero [4d\]: this move threatens to cut w, but the really nice thing is that w can't exactly use N3 to counterattack against this specific move
TheKing14 [30k?\]: compared to me
student2 [2k\]: follows m7
TheKing14 [30k?\]: i cant beat idiot bot
TheKing14 [30k?\]: i just cant beat it
MXHero [4d\]: so, unless w finds something extremely creative, the M5 stones will look overconcentrated and still unable to attack M3
WackOu [2d\]: Everyone can beat idiot bot. You trolly trolling troller troll
rubbish [9k?\]: u have beaten it
whitemilk8 [10k\]: :P
passstab [5k\]: m9?
AzureSea [4d\]: ccant beate idiotbot...
TheKing14 [30k?\]: i am serious
AzureSea [4d\]: is that even possible xD
TheKing14 [30k?\]: i fail
frozensoul [-\]: sure azure
TheKing14 [30k?\]: i started like 2 days ago
AzureSea [4d\]: oh
frozensoul [-\]: i cant beat idiotbot either :D
USGO1 [-\]: let's stay focused on this game please
frozensoul [-\]: thats why on kgs im 50k
whitemilk8 [10k\]: tweet
whitemilk8 [10k\]: frozen
whitemilk8 [10k\]: your like 5d
frozensoul [-\]: shhhh!
AzureSea [4d\]: in that case king thats ok
frozensoul [-\]: m7 is interesting
AzureSea [4d\]: m6
Jermelle [-\]: M7 looks like a pressure move
frozensoul [-\]: that would be normal sure
fly [2k\]: I predict w will not tenuki.
frozensoul [-\]: and jermelle i already said that 
breuehan [1k\]: m6
frozensoul [-\]: lol
AzureSea [4d\]: n4 looks intersting
svl [11k\]: how is w going to fight for the center? B got a good wall by now..
Jermelle [-\]: Well I dont care because I never scrolled up :)
frozensoul [-\]: ahh
MXHero [4d\]: w O2? that's all i can see but i don't think it's good
whitemilk8 [10k\]: happy makes you happpy
AzureSea [4d\]: i like n4
Jermelle [-\]: but it is a pressure move which can be made into moyo, or it could be sente. or all of these
svl [11k\]: w o2 b o3.. and?
rubbish [9k?\]: TheKing i just looked at one of your games
Jermelle [-\]: Or just a simple distraction
rubbish [9k?\]: dont play idiotbot anymore
frozensoul [-\]: well i dont think the idea is quite so much a moyo
MXHero [4d\]: then N4
TheKing14 [30k?\]: what
AzureSea [4d\]: mx thats what i said lol
frozensoul [-\]: but this exchange here
rubbish [9k?\]: stop playing idiotbot.
Jermelle [-\]: I know theking
frozensoul [-\]: may help black emmensly in the topside fight
rubbish [9k?\]: u need to play real people to get better now
TheKing14 [30k?\]: ewhy
AzureSea [4d\]: hm
AzureSea [4d\]: thats true, frozen
MXHero [4d\]: but if w N4 directly, b O2 is too easy
rubbish [9k?\]: ul just pick up stupid ideas off idiotbot
MXHero [4d\]: then there is like no aji anywhere
TheKing14 [30k?\]: not playing any person yet
rubbish [9k?\]: u have to
TheKing14 [30k?\]: soon though
atirlarigo [?\]: with all respect, i think on such games it would be nice that those who don't have anything intersting to say just stay silent
TheKing14 [30k?\]: agreed
TheKing14 [30k?\]: shhhhhhhhhh
Jermelle [-\]: ^ look who's talking
sinsai [5d\]: ^
TheKing14 [30k?\]: who
TheKing14 [30k?\]: whos talking
AzureSea [4d\]: you
Jermelle [-\]: -.O
AzureSea [4d\]: lol
TheKing14 [30k?\]: oh yeah
WackOu [2d\]: succesful troll is succesful
Jermelle [-\]: XD
whitemilk8 [10k\]: silents = milk
Jermelle [-\]: but either way. I hope W wins this game even tho it looks very..
Rukis [1k\]: white wont win
passstab [5k\]: n9?
student2 [2k\]: seems no hope
Jermelle [-\]: well he is playing a pro XD
BinX [?\]: what about l8 right now ?
Rukis [1k\]: pro has nothing to do with jermelle
AzureSea [4d\]: n4 n4
whitemilk8 [10k\]: ...\]
T4L0N [1k\]: Kind of a hard sequence AsureSea...
T4L0N [1k\]: ;P
Rukis [1k\]: or hes rooting for white n4 :O
AzureSea [4d\]: im rooting xD
T4L0N [1k\]: That's why it was sarcasm rukis. :P
AzureSea [4d\]: wow rukis
AzureSea [4d\]: >.>
T4L0N [1k\]: xD
omggg [?\]: *yellow card*
whitemilk8 [10k\]: o8?
AzureSea [4d\]: o8 overplay
BinX [?\]: o8 allows cut
T4L0N [1k\]: O8 would get W cut in half
AzureSea [4d\]: only move imo is m6 or n4
whitemilk8 [10k\]: *cries
AzureSea [4d\]: i prefer n4
T4L0N [1k\]: W has to fix his shape and connect out. xD
frozensoul [-\]: im starting to agree with azure o.O
AzureSea [4d\]: xD
AzureSea [4d\]: ofc :)
MXHero [4d\]: but N4 just forces b to fix
WackOu [2d\]: o8 would be relatively silly. It would do very little
frozensoul [-\]: its so hard to find a more active response...
AzureSea [4d\]: everyone agrees with me
T4L0N [1k\]: Don't do that frozen, its a slippery slope. xD
MXHero [4d\]: and w still needs something
AzureSea [4d\]: lol only sente move is n4
TheKing14 [30k?\]: where is white
TheKing14 [30k?\]: is he getting a smoothie
Rukis [1k\]: ?
whitemilk8 [10k\]: XD
TheKing14 [30k?\]: lol
T4L0N [1k\]: He is thinking.
BinX [?\]: nobody for l8 ? is it so bad it does not even merit a look ?
T4L0N [1k\]: Big game.
frozensoul [-\]: n4 might be fine
Rukis [1k\]: l8 is bad
fly [2k\]: He is thinking of resigning
T4L0N [1k\]: Important to think the moves through.
frozensoul [-\]: if black can get sufficient compensation from his attack
frozensoul [-\]: i guess
MXHero [4d\]: i don't think w has time to cut there
T4L0N [1k\]: N4 does seem a valid option.
MXHero [4d\]: l8 l7 k7 k9
frozensoul [-\]: whites shape is too thin
frozensoul [-\]: for l8
frozensoul [-\]: without question
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;W[lr]C[BinX [?\]: l8 l7 k7 k9 n8 ?
]
;B[kr]C[Rukis [1k\]: haha
frozensoul [-\]: i was thinking this cut
Rukis [1k\]: !
fly [2k\]: whee!
MXHero [4d\]: O2 is so close, gaaah
frozensoul [-\]: but its unsure
frozensoul [-\]: lol
]
;W[mo]C[whitemilk8 [10k\]: THAT WAS FAT
MXHero [4d\]: coolness
Rukis [1k\]: fast*
T4L0N [1k\]: See frozen, go with your gut...not Azure. xD
WackOu [2d\]: black is making a statement here :)
frozensoul [-\]: hmm
whitemilk8 [10k\]: people are people
MXHero [4d\]: w wants to avoid M6 because it just invites b N7, which is unfairly good for b
AzureSea [4d\]: hmm
frozensoul [-\]: agreed
frozensoul [-\]: this way is a bit more creative
]
;B[jo]C[Jermelle [-\]: I wonder how far W just read
AzureSea [4d\]: lol yea
frozensoul [-\]: ok black us just not nice
Rukis [1k\]: l6 
frozensoul [-\]: l6
MXHero [4d\]: must have included this move
Jermelle [-\]: B is a pro, pros never show mercy
frozensoul [-\]: lies
frozensoul [-\]: lee changho
frozensoul [-\]: lol
WackOu [2d\]: Trained killers
AzureSea [4d\]: l5
Jermelle [-\]: that's messed up XD
BinX [?\]: l6 l5 
Jermelle [-\]: l6 /o/
Rukis [1k\]: Jermelle you do realize he is 1p right?
Jermelle [-\]: yeah ;o
USGO1 [-\]: Matthew checks his opponent's time
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;W[ko]C[Rukis [1k\]: that doesnt make him 10 stones stronger then jianing
frozensoul [-\]: hmm
Jermelle [-\]: I wonder how many times at the congress somebody flipped the board
Illyria [?\]: nuclear tesuji!
Rukis [1k\]: no one
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;B[ip]C[frozensoul [-\]: i thought about this too but
T4L0N [1k\]: I doubt that happens often.
Rukis [1k\]: because their respectful"
frozensoul [-\]: j4 is annoying
T4L0N [1k\]: As they probably wouldn't be allowed back.
Rukis [1k\]: "respectful" xD
RichHuig [15k?\]: hi all
Jermelle [-\]: XD Talon
]
;W[km]C[Rukis [1k\]: k7 now?
Rukis [1k\]: :o
WackOu [2d\]: So theking14 has another alias
T4L0N [1k\]: Hi RichHuig, welcome.
]
;B[hp]C[svl [11k\]: is b trying to make a homble life or is he going for a kill in the bottom?
AzureSea [4d\]: ha
AzureSea [4d\]: i was right bout l5
Jermelle [-\]: but I actually set up a game and flipped the board, it felt good
AzureSea [4d\]: :D
Rukis [1k\]: hes getting profit
MXHero [4d\]: wow i don't believe H4 is big enough, oh well
T4L0N [1k\]: Going for lots of points.
MXHero [4d\]: i prefer w very strongly now
WackOu [2d\]: h4 is big enough
T4L0N [1k\]: WHy's that MX?
WackOu [2d\]: B securing an easy win here
Rukis [1k\]: tsumego white to kill l17
Rukis [1k\]: ho
MXHero [4d\]: not easy
Rukis [1k\]: go*
ThiGar [3k\]: good for b, no?
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;W[pe]
;B[qd]C[Jermelle [-\]: hm?
Jermelle [-\]: well then, that was..
Jermelle [-\]: time suji?
T4L0N [1k\]: No
Beef [3d\]: n17 
Rukis [1k\]: you dont know q15?
USGO1 [-\]: A few years ago a player made a bad mistake that caused him to laugh out loud, and he tried to push himself back away from the table and tripped and knocked his chair over backwards as he fell over it
MXHero [4d\]: if you count the points (how dare we even count yet, but oh well), it's not like b has an overwhelming number of points
AzureSea [4d\]: LOL
Jermelle [-\]: XD
Rukis [1k\]: xD
Rukis [1k\]: lol
svl [11k\]: is n4 urgent?
frozensoul [-\]: shall i count?
Jermelle [-\]: that made my day
AzureSea [4d\]: not now
AzureSea [4d\]: n4 small now
BinX [?\]: great story ^^
AzureSea [4d\]: oh frozen ur counting
AzureSea [4d\]: me too
AzureSea [4d\]: xD
Jermelle [-\]: frozen, dont count. We have SE :P
frozensoul [-\]: then list every possible yose combo that will lead to white winning?
AzureSea [4d\]: ill do b
MXHero [4d\]: b has like 50 points
AzureSea [4d\]: b has 56 pts about
AzureSea [4d\]: lol
AzureSea [4d\]: w has...
ThiGar [3k\]: b should h17 base
Rukis [1k\]: does b4 work?
MXHero [4d\]: w has an insane center situation now
frozensoul [-\]: white currently has around 47-50
frozensoul [-\]: with komi
AzureSea [4d\]: white has about 52 i get
frozensoul [-\]: im counting sente yose
Jermelle [-\]: that was a fast count ;o
frozensoul [-\]: ist 48-50
frozensoul [-\]: lol
AzureSea [4d\]: lol
AzureSea [4d\]: maybe i counted some extra
AzureSea [4d\]: idk
Jermelle [-\]: I dont even know how too read yet, how can i count XD
AzureSea [4d\]: xDD
frozensoul [-\]: lol
AzureSea [4d\]: lol im not that good at reading either
Jermelle [-\]: no lie.. I cant read
Rukis [1k\]: well i can help you solve that problem
Rukis [1k\]: :D
lance [1d\]: white about 35?
Rukis [1k\]: do tsumego
Rukis [1k\]: :D
AzureSea [4d\]: lost a game cuz i made a bad exhange today
MXHero [4d\]: E11 now?
AzureSea [4d\]: e11 bad i think
Jermelle [-\]: Really? good luck helping me learn how too read XD
BinX [?\]: had to n17
WackOu [2d\]: I've never understood this fascination with counting points before the game is over and you can move stones around
BinX [?\]: has*
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;W[lc]C[BinX [?\]: oh
AzureSea [4d\]: why wud u attach that stone o.o
Wagaboo [2k\]: surprising
AzureSea [4d\]: just gonna make it stronger :O
MXHero [4d\]: make it heavy!
Wagaboo [2k\]: this stone is weak and he touch it
]
;B[kd]C[WackOu [2d\]: W also needs to live :p
Rukis [1k\]: apparently not
MXHero [4d\]: just like why you sometimes peep before attacking
Misteri: his stones were not that strong either
frozensoul [-\]: much easier to fight if both are weak 
Jermelle [-\]: Did W think this move out XD
AzureSea [4d\]: okay time for w to yolo
Rukis [1k\]: white vaulues it as a strong stone
frozensoul [-\]: imo
AzureSea [4d\]: l14!
Beef [3d\]: decent response
Jermelle [-\]: Black reminds me of andy liu
AzureSea [4d\]: hm not really
ThiGar [3k\]: if that l16 wall-et lives...
sinsai [5d\]: no, black stronger
frozensoul [-\]: cap a foo
frozensoul [-\]: lol
Beef [3d\]: if w plays l14 b can still get h17 
AzureSea [4d\]: l14 ftw
Illyria [?\]: b isn't aggressive enough to be andy
AzureSea [4d\]: w can easily attack that
Beef [3d\]: sure, but he still get's a good shape
BinX [?\]: "easily"
Wagaboo [2k\]: how many pro are there is the AGA now ?
Illyria [?\]: 2
AzureSea [4d\]: thats it?
bengozen [5k\]: yeah
Beef [3d\]: maybe m15
bengozen [5k\]: should have a third by the end of this year
fly [2k\]: 2 more this year?
ThiGar [3k\]: to kill L16: first a cap or a side?
BinX [?\]: w's group is too weak, has to protect it ?
AzureSea [4d\]: m15 leaves m16 
bengozen [5k\]: rumor is only one spot will be up for grabs
AzureSea [4d\]: and m16 hurts w badly
AzureSea [4d\]: maybe m14?
AzureSea [4d\]: hmm nah
AzureSea [4d\]: l14 it is
AzureSea [4d\]: :)
Beef [3d\]: :P
AzureSea [4d\]: :P
frozensoul [-\]: i agree with azure
Beef [3d\]: or j17
frozensoul [-\]: white needs to play activly i think
Jermelle [-\]: Wait ben
Jermelle [-\]: I thought there were 2 pros each year
AzureSea [4d\]: lol
frozensoul [-\]: tygem isnt sponsoring it this year
AzureSea [4d\]: aha frozen agrees with me again
Jermelle [-\]: Oh in that case
frozensoul [-\]: the aga had to raise the money for it on their own
Beef [3d\]: imho l14 is too much
frozensoul [-\]: l14 i admit is a tad agressive
Jermelle [-\]: what is so hard about making a pro exam, this is a legit question not an insult
Merlot [1k\]: J17  is only move
SColbert [4d\]: m16 is normal
frozensoul [-\]: but if white doesnt go on the offensive then he will lose
Beef [3d\]: m16 is slow I would think
frozensoul [-\]: the agta has to pay them
frozensoul [-\]: jermelle
frozensoul [-\]: lol
frozensoul [-\]: aga*
Rukis [1k\]: well L17 was gunna get stronger anyways
Jermelle [-\]: Wait pay the pros?
frozensoul [-\]: yes...
Beef [3d\]: helps b too much
frozensoul [-\]: its an occupation
frozensoul [-\]: lol
Jermelle [-\]: XD thats a waste of money
Jermelle [-\]: Wait it's a job?
Rukis [1k\]: how...
frozensoul [-\]: if pros didnt get paid
Illyria [?\]: that's the definition of a pro...
frozensoul [-\]: they wouldnt go pro
frozensoul [-\]: lol
Misteri: i'd go j17 too, then b l14 and w o13
Rukis [1k\]: -.-
Jermelle [-\]: I thought it was more of a show off thing
T4L0N [1k\]: ...Jermelle...
Rukis [1k\]: really jermelle really?
Jermelle [-\]: Hm, well then
T4L0N [1k\]: No, its a career.
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;W[kb]
;B[jb]C[T4L0N [1k\]: Teaching and tournements.
Wagaboo [2k\]: Oo
T4L0N [1k\]: And show matches.
Jermelle [-\]: and you make money winning tournaments only
]
;W[lb]C[Rukis [1k\]: ....
SColbert [4d\]: go world should adopt universal rating 
T4L0N [1k\]: No, majority of pros make their main money teaching.
Jermelle [-\]: just look at lee sedol
Beef [3d\]: now l14 starts to make sense
SColbert [4d\]: like chess
Beef [3d\]: I like l18
AzureSea [4d\]: lol
]
;B[gc]C[Rukis [1k\]: Jermelle you dont know what lee sedol does outside of tournaments...
frozensoul [-\]: now l14 is even more powerful
frozensoul [-\]: or was
Jermelle [-\]: Lee sedol doesn't teach. He writes books and wins things
AzureSea [4d\]: lol
frozensoul [-\]: untill black got fancy
frozensoul [-\]: >.>
AzureSea [4d\]: g17...
SColbert [4d\]: and get rid ig pro ama distinction
Rukis [1k\]: How do you know Jermelle?
svl [11k\]: e16 isnt yet fully alive
Jermelle [-\]: I assume the #1 player in korea has no time for students
frozensoul [-\]: umm
frozensoul [-\]: he has his own dojiang jermelle...
frozensoul [-\]: lol
T4L0N [1k\]: Assumptions do not always prove to be true.
Jermelle [-\]: wow,  I need to pay attention more
SColbert [4d\]: lee sedols heydays are over
bengozen [5k\]: more like you need to not assume things
bengozen [5k\]: =D
MXHero [4d\]: tournaments don't take very long to play
USGO1 [-\]: I know it can be hard at times, but let's try to stay foccused on this game before you get booted and have to miss the end of it
frozensoul [-\]: its all bout that park jungwhan
frozensoul [-\]: xD
SColbert [4d\]: young kids from china can give him 2h
Beef [3d\]: g16?
]
;W[gd]C[T4L0N [1k\]: Sorry USGO1
SirEttin [1d\]: concentrate on the game
T4L0N [1k\]: Back to the game.
bengozen [5k\]: time for black to jet into the center?
rubbish [9k?\]: sorry USGO
frozensoul [-\]: sure
frozensoul [-\]: jet away at l14
frozensoul [-\]: ill cap u
frozensoul [-\]: foo
frozensoul [-\]: xD
rubbish [9k?\]: do you never feel like chatting USGO1?
Beef [3d\]: first finish g17 plan with h17 f18 exchange I think
SirEttin [1d\]: h17
]
;B[gb]C[Beef [3d\]: then b plays around l14
]
;W[fb]
;B[hd]C[Jermelle [-\]: frozensoul, so agressive XD
USGO1 [-\]: We're broadcasting this game for you, the fans. If it inspires discussion, that's good, just don't get carried away and get yourselves booted
frozensoul [-\]: naww im just trying to think
frozensoul [-\]: what would azure do"
]
;W[he]C[AzureSea [4d\]: xD
frozensoul [-\]: xD
SirEttin [1d\]: is bigbadwolf playing?
AzureSea [4d\]: probably on board 3
Jermelle [-\]: you mean andy liu?
Jermelle [-\]: I thought he was playing a simul
Jermelle [-\]: *checks the AGA website
Rukis [1k\]: same person jermelle..
USGO1 [-\]: Andy was on board 6 today, his game is already finished
AzureSea [4d\]: oh he won?
frozensoul [-\]: azure im buddying u xD
Rukis [1k\]: ah i see thanks
Demon [3d\]: andy lost yesterday, so he's not in the top boards today
AzureSea [4d\]: okay frozen xD
AzureSea [4d\]: ill buddy u too :)
frozensoul [-\]: saweet! :D
Jermelle [-\]: But I call pros by their REAL name rukis >.>
AzureSea [4d\]: oh brb all
Rukis [1k\]: oh gawd the buddy partners :O
AzureSea [4d\]: lunch lol
frozensoul [-\]: u should do the rengo challenge with rue and myself get a dan partner and play us when were on!
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;B[ge]
;W[fd]C[Rukis [1k\]: oo pick me :D
AzureSea [4d\]: lol sure thing frozen
frozensoul [-\]: back to game!
Demon [3d\]: "dan partner" rukis...
]
;B[id]
;W[ei]C[Beef [3d\]: with the potential of the e11 cut I don't understand this so much
Rukis [1k\]: close enough :D, white needs some points :O
Jermelle [-\]: The demon has spoken!
Beef [3d\]: that's what I mean
MXHero [4d\]: finally w realizes how good e11 is
MXHero [4d\]: jk :)
frozensoul [-\]: speak of the devil beef! :D
svl [11k\]: double atari?
Beef [3d\]: :D
frozensoul [-\]: agreed mx
frozensoul [-\]: lol
Jermelle [-\]: double atari
frozensoul [-\]: he finally woke p
frozensoul [-\]: xD
svl [11k\]: nm
Rukis [1k\]: no jermell no...
frozensoul [-\]: double atari is asking for death in the center
frozensoul [-\]: ^_^
Rukis [1k\]: e10 f11 d9 
Jermelle [-\]: I cant read that far rukis >.>
Rukis [1k\]: then start practicing
Jermelle [-\]: I can read like.. one move
Jermelle [-\]: and then resign XD
Rukis [1k\]: idc...
forgotmypw [?\]: just practise
Demon [3d\]: reading is for over-achievers.  just play moves that look cool
SColbert [4d\]: reading is for book worms
MXHero [4d\]: L8
forgotmypw [?\]: if you find no joy in doing tsumegos, too bad
Rukis [1k\]: f11 e10 g13 f12 f13 g12 h12 g11 h11 g10 h14  :O
svl [11k\]: e12 is important
Rukis [1k\]: too bad this is bad
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;B[lk]C[MXHero [4d\]: okok fine, but L8 was the right idea!
Rukis [1k\]: i guess it isnt
Rukis [1k\]: lol
MXHero [4d\]: :)
]
;W[ib]C[Rukis [1k\]: but close enough hero xD
frozensoul [-\]: hes scared of the right side
frozensoul [-\]: hehe
fly [2k\]: w attacks!
]
;B[pk]C[SirEttin [1d\]: wow 
awesome [4k\]: so does b
fly [2k\]: kill, kill, kill!  But, b tenukis!
Beef [3d\]: makes sense
SirEttin [1d\]: ladder breaker
Rukis [1k\]: no that was a ladder killer :o
MXHero [4d\]: b isn't worried, since b now has H14 available
toffee [3d\]: That's a slap on the face for w.
Beef [3d\]: very sharp move 
USGO1 [-\]: Jianing leans in to get a closer look at the board
fly [2k\]: lol
SirEttin [1d\]: he must have missed this
MXHero [4d\]: i think J18 was a bit hasty
Rukis [1k\]: shh everyone hes trying to concientrate harder
Beef [3d\]: the beauty of a true multi purpose move
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;W[qk]C[Rukis [1k\]: q9 has one purpose
Rukis [1k\]: and thatsto destroy
frozensoul [-\]: true multipurpose moves make miai of winnng and losing"
Rukis [1k\]: alot of things
frozensoul [-\]: -some random chinese pro whos name i forget*
]
;B[pl]C[Rukis [1k\]: lol
frozensoul [-\]: it makes no sense to me but iv always wanted to use it
frozensoul [-\]: xD
Beef [3d\]: yeah I wouldn't j18.. B get's out in the center easily now, so he doesn't care much about an eye there
ThiGar [3k\]: where are w's points,
SirEttin [1d\]: r7
Beef [3d\]: r7 is really painful
passstab [5k\]: when is winning and loosing not miai?
Rukis [1k\]: I've consulted the oracle and white needs a really great sequence here to pull this game around
frozensoul [-\]: lol
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;W[kl]
;B[kk]
;W[ll]
;B[pj]C[Rukis [1k\]: not great wnouhg :o
hallelujah [?\]: you guys don't know what miai means
Beef [3d\]: w wants the cut at n9 
frozensoul [-\]: miai loosly means like points
toffee [3d\]: w's center became black's.
Jermelle [-\]: W needs a ninja suji
frozensoul [-\]: if ur opponent takes a u take b
frozensoul [-\]: and vice versa
Rukis [1k\]: there is no center
hallelujah [?\]: miai means two points of equal value
Beef [3d\]: but it's b;s influence now
fly [2k\]: no center, no spoon... 
lance [1d\]: miai means a choice
frozensoul [-\]: if u want to sum it up like that then sre
Rukis [1k\]: no fun...
frozensoul [-\]: that works too
WackOu [2d\]: mxhero, so, you still prefer W?
Beef [3d\]: r13
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;W[qi]C[frozensoul [-\]: miai is defined as
frozensoul [-\]: The Japanese go term, adopted into English, miai denotes that there are two different options such that, if one player takes one, the other player can take the other. Also, it typically does not matter which player gets which option, but sometimes each player has only one of the options.
Jermelle [-\]: what would O13 do
MXHero [4d\]: there is no still; these are different positions entirely
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;B[mk]C[Jermelle [-\]: O13 reduces the center, I read it out 
MXHero [4d\]: but i like b after J18 because it seems impossible to attack b strongly enough
Beef [3d\]: h14 ?
ThiGar [3k\]: i guess we're witnessing the difference pro-amateur 
hallelujah [?\]: that definition is incomplete. you should edit the senseis entry
Rukis [1k\]: O.o "doesnt matter who gets what, but each player only has one option" lol
Rukis [1k\]: hallelujah troll somewhere else
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;W[nl]C[Jermelle [-\]: XD
hallelujah [?\]: ... right
]
;B[pi]C[lance [1d\]: amyone still like o6?
death101 [?\]: who is winning?
Beef [3d\]: for w?
Beef [3d\]: :P
frozensoul [-\]: black
frozensoul [-\]: atm
death101 [?\]: thought so
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;W[qh]C[frozensoul [-\]: im not sure whites out of the running tho
Jermelle [-\]: W needs to mess up that center or kill something
]
;B[oo]
;W[on]
;B[pm]C[Beef [3d\]: well atm b cannot expect too much in the center since he still has a group to connect or make alive
]
;W[rm]
;B[pn]C[Beef [3d\]: ouch 
hallelujah [?\]: this sucks
]
;W[nk]C[fly [2k\]: whee!
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;B[nj]C[frozensoul [-\]: this is quite painful....
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;W[mm]
;B[rg]C[hallelujah [?\]: w will probably resign
]
;W[pf]
;B[hf]C[MXHero [4d\]: O11
]
;W[ni]
;B[mj]C[Jermelle [-\]: W needs too resign now
Jermelle [-\]: or just flip the board /o/
Misteri: k9 only option, now ?
Rukis [1k\]: how would you know white needs to resign?  you cant even read past move 1 :O
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;W[jc]C[Rukis [1k\]: k9 isnt possible now
]
;B[gg]C[Jermelle [-\]: I can read if I seriously wanted to
Jermelle [-\]: but the game would take hours
Armament: Maybe if you practice it won't take so long...
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;W[je]C[MXHero [4d\]: reading moves is inefficient anyway; just think about the right stuff
Jermelle [-\]: when I mean hours. I mean like..... 2-3
Rukis [1k\]: ?
frozensoul [-\]: learn shape
hallelujah [?\]: w seems desperate
frozensoul [-\]: and reading will follow naturally
Jermelle [-\]: I wish I could frozensoul
MXHero [4d\]: learn thickness, and shape will follow :)
Jermelle [-\]: but I am self taught anyway
frozensoul [-\]: besides its not like dans do mega long complex read outs
Rukis [1k\]: unless your 2i
Jermelle [-\]: it'll take me a long time to learn anything good
frozensoul [-\]: i generally only read a max of 6 moves ahead
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;B[ie]C[MXHero [4d\]: i do my heaviest reading when seeing if a ladder works
]
;W[jd]
;B[jf]
;W[kf]
;B[kg]
;W[jg]C[Rukis [1k\]: and then he plots a ladder breaker down and you have to reread everything -.-
]
;B[if]C[awesome [4k\]: j15 nice
MXHero [4d\]: yeah! bummer lol
]
;W[ke]C[tesdfs: d9
SColbert [4d\]: d9
tesdfs: owned
tesdfs: jk
Rukis [1k\]: d9 and white resigns?
SColbert [4d\]: no
ThiGar [3k\]: USGO1, will new pros be named directly as a result of this Open?
Rukis [1k\]: what?
Rukis [1k\]: no new pros this usgo
Rukis [1k\]: its in december
SColbert [4d\]: d9 b can make a 30 point center
USGO1 [-\]: no, but the top two finishers, I believe, will be allowed to play in the Certification Tournament later this year
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;B[lg]C[ThiGar [3k\]: thx
]
;W[fi]
;B[gh]
;W[ek]C[RichHuig [15k?\]: meaning ? 
RichHuig [15k?\]: jus curious :)
Rukis [1k\]: http://www.usgo.org/news/2013/08/aga-announces-plans-for-second-pro-certification-tournament/
SColbert [4d\]: now yose begins
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;B[ic]C[frozensoul [-\]: whites held off this long
frozensoul [-\]: lets see if he can shift it around in endgame
Jermelle [-\]: frozensoul. You should take the online pro exam ;p
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;W[lh]C[frozensoul [-\]: i took it last year
frozensoul [-\]: lol
Jermelle [-\]: and then make it too the real one
RichHuig [15k?\]: tnx Rukis
Jermelle [-\]: I already gave up on being pro. I'm gonna stop at maybe 8d
Rukis [1k\]: .....
frozensoul [-\]: why give up?
Jermelle [-\]: too old
frozensoul [-\]: its bad to limit yourself
Jermelle [-\]: I cant make it
frozensoul [-\]: lies
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;B[db]C[WackOu [2d\]: Lol
AzureSea [4d\]: back :D
frozensoul [-\]: there was like som old like 20+ guy that turned pro in korea
Jermelle [-\]: I was talking with gangsheng shi
SColbert [4d\]: m12 is ?
Jermelle [-\]: he said my chances are 0
frozensoul [-\]: thats nice
frozensoul [-\]: forget him
AzureSea [4d\]: o.o what happened while i was gone xD
frozensoul [-\]: try anyway
Rukis [1k\]: well with your attitude like that...
frozensoul [-\]: put him in korea
frozensoul [-\]: his winrate is 0
frozensoul [-\]: xP
Rukis [1k\]: hes already in korea
Rukis [1k\]: :o
T4L0N [1k\]: He went to an insei school
RichHuig [15k?\]: lol
T4L0N [1k\]: In korea
frozensoul [-\]: and i bet hes not doing so hot xP
T4L0N [1k\]: And is in like B class
copyright [3d\]: f19 
T4L0N [1k\]: Or C class
MXHero [4d\]: that's the same message that -should- be given to anybody interested in trying to do anything, honestly
T4L0N [1k\]: Can't remember
AzureSea [4d\]: ah i see
Rukis [1k\]: idk they dont have updates on that xD
AzureSea [4d\]: im all caughtup now
frozensoul [-\]: lol wb azure
frozensoul [-\]: x
frozensoul [-\]: xD
MXHero [4d\]: because if you actually think it's worthwhile to listen to that, you actually should quit
AzureSea [4d\]: xD
T4L0N [1k\]: If you really strive to and work towards it Jermelle, its possible
awesome [4k\]: mx, your chance of persuading anyone is zero
frozensoul [-\]: i dont think anyone that gets knocked to 2 stones as a pro is worth listnening to about pro advice
Rukis [1k\]: that means 24/7 doing go :D
AzureSea [4d\]: close game 
frozensoul [-\]: no offense
frozensoul [-\]: gengshen can destroy me
AzureSea [4d\]: lol
MXHero [4d\]: not sure what you mean, awesome
fly [2k\]: So, b by 20?
SColbert [4d\]: whats happening
frozensoul [-\]: but to say that his chances are 0 is not acceptable
frozensoul [-\]: xP
AzureSea [4d\]: is d18 sente?
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;W[ea]C[awesome [4k\]: I have to tell you like this, so you try harder
]
;B[mh]
;W[nh]C[SColbert [4d\]: w resign?
AzureSea [4d\]: oh right d19 lol
Jermelle [-\]: If thats the case
AzureSea [4d\]: hm
Jermelle [-\]: then why isn't everyone here aiming for pro :O
AzureSea [4d\]: o13
frozensoul [-\]: not everyone wants to be pro
AzureSea [4d\]: if u wanna be a pro u gotta play go veryday for many hours
AzureSea [4d\]: lol
MXHero [4d\]: different example: becoming a professional musician in a symphony
Jermelle [-\]: p.o
frozensoul [-\]: i want to be a pro
fly [2k\]: I wanna be a pro golfer... think I can?  I've played several games already!
frozensoul [-\]: and i will continue to train to become a pro
MXHero [4d\]: if somebody asks if it is possible to become one, the correct answer is "no", but it is a lie
USGO1 [-\]: I had to step away and cover board two for a second there. Did I miss anything important here?
AzureSea [4d\]: not really
Jermelle [-\]: no
sinsai [5d\]: n11
Thomasmith [9k?\]: There are people born with talent, and there are people who earn their talent. If you're not colum A, make yourself Colum B.
AzureSea [4d\]: o13
fly [2k\]: So much pointless chat!
Tabemasu [2d?\]: i wonder how many people want to be pro, or do they just want to be good at go?
Jermelle [-\]: I dont have any talent for the game
AzureSea [4d\]: actually
MXHero [4d\]: blah, nobody understands what i am saying, oh well :)
AzureSea [4d\]: b might ignore this
frozensoul [-\]: i want to be a pro
AzureSea [4d\]: and do g10
Jermelle [-\]: like.... none
frozensoul [-\]: i made 5d in 1 yr 4 months
Jermelle [-\]: frozensoul has talent for the game
Jermelle [-\]: I dont XD
frozensoul [-\]: i will continue training to better mysel
AzureSea [4d\]: frozen did u have a teacher/
T4L0N [1k\]: I understand you MXHero! :)
frozensoul [-\]: no
TheKing14 [-\]: now  i know you rank
frozensoul [-\]: well
AzureSea [4d\]: wow
frozensoul [-\]: not a set one
AzureSea [4d\]: thats crazy xD
MXHero [4d\]: lol ty T4lon :)
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;B[da]C[frozensoul [-\]: i studied with a few pros
ThiGar [3k\]: Is Matthew Hu(1p) a good teacher/sensei? anybody know him?
T4L0N [1k\]: :)
frozensoul [-\]: but never consistantly
AzureSea [4d\]: i see
AmagamiSS [3k\]: You be 4d in 1.5 years without  a teacher, only kgs games ?
frozensoul [-\]: tygem
frozensoul [-\]: 50 games a day
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;W[ae]C[Jermelle [-\]: ^ nuts
AmagamiSS [3k\]: xDD
]
;B[ag]C[T4L0N [1k\]: O.o
frozensoul [-\]: so after my first year i had 18,250 games under my belt
T4L0N [1k\]: 50?!?!?
AzureSea [4d\]: thats crazy lol
Tabemasu [2d?\]: wow
Jermelle [-\]: I was like "that is bull, no way did he seriously do that"
Tabemasu [2d?\]: what a psycho
AmagamiSS [3k\]: i play around 20 games a day 
frozensoul [-\]: that coupled with pro game reviews
frozensoul [-\]: and tsumego
frozensoul [-\]: D:
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;W[fe]C[AzureSea [4d\]: you're lucky lol
frozensoul [-\]: :D*
AzureSea [4d\]: i nver had access to any pros
frozensoul [-\]: very little tsumego
frozensoul [-\]: but some there
T4L0N [1k\]: I play like... 5 games a week. xD
Neamtujose [3k\]: w sucks
AzureSea [4d\]: i try to play once a day
Illyria [?\]: I wish I had the time to play 50 games a day...
AzureSea [4d\]: i mainly study off of books
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;B[ng]C[AzureSea [4d\]: aha
T4L0N [1k\]: Same here Azure, just been too busy lately to study hard.
AzureSea [4d\]: called that move xD
Jermelle [-\]: I only play 10 games a day on tygem
AzureSea [4d\]: knew b wouldn't n11
Jermelle [-\]: and if I am bored, 20
awesome [4k\]: maybe we should divide our skill levels by how much we have studied to get talent?
frozensoul [-\]: black aint bout that wuss life azure
frozensoul [-\]: xD
AzureSea [4d\]: time spent studying doesnt rly correlate to rank though
AzureSea [4d\]: lol frozen xD
awesome [4k\]: exactly
Neamtujose [3k\]: b move for corner b B19
Merlot [1k\]: n11
AzureSea [4d\]: h10 for white?
T4L0N [1k\]: B19 doesn't do anything
AzureSea [4d\]: i think its slightly bigger than the o11 stones
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;W[qg]C[T4L0N [1k\]: B D19 was so W had to capture later
AzureSea [4d\]: those stones are about 7 points
frozensoul [-\]: s13 thts dirty
AzureSea [4d\]: h10 is more i think
frozensoul [-\]: but obvious
frozensoul [-\]: if white has good endgame he can win still i think
AzureSea [4d\]: whats b thinking about oo
AzureSea [4d\]: isnt s14 only move here
hallelujah [?\]: o2 seems large
fly [2k\]: b is trying to make him resign
AzureSea [4d\]: if w o2 b might go for ko with o3
Tabemasu [2d?\]: i don't think w can win
MXHero [4d\]: R15 would capture the P12 stones, kinda
AzureSea [4d\]: yeah
Jermelle [-\]: Dang it I almost beat a 5d on tygem, I almost killed a group but I misread DX
AzureSea [4d\]: or actually
AzureSea [4d\]: no
USGO1 [-\]: Matthew let out a quiet "hummm" what Jianing played that move
USGO1 [-\]: *when
AzureSea [4d\]: r15 doesnt kill black's r18 stones
Jermelle [-\]: is it a ninja suji?
AzureSea [4d\]: r15 s15 s14 t16 
AzureSea [4d\]: maybe b will h10 here
MXHero [4d\]: jermelle, unfortunate tygem trivia: 5ds are not 5ds
AzureSea [4d\]: ot p13
AzureSea [4d\]: or*
MXHero [4d\]: and that's all i'm saying, i don't want a rank discussion ever lol
USGO1 [-\]: Matthew is looking around the board, perhaps counting
AzureSea [4d\]: hm
AzureSea [4d\]: lol ima copy matthew
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;B[rf]
;W[mi]C[AzureSea [4d\]: aha called it^
]
;B[mg]C[AzureSea [4d\]: s14 :D
frozensoul [-\]: lol
frozensoul [-\]: *highfives azure*
AzureSea [4d\]: *highfives*
AmagamiSS [3k\]: for tygem add two grade and you have the kgs grade
]
;W[oh]
;B[ph]
;W[og]C[frozensoul [-\]: thats not always the case
frozensoul [-\]: not around 7d
fly [2k\]: w wants to cut at p10?
frozensoul [-\]: well
awesome [4k\]: hmmmm
frozensoul [-\]: teh strong 7ds
AzureSea [4d\]: lol
frozensoul [-\]: they keep me from hitting 8d T.T
MXHero [4d\]: cough, not gonna bite; this rank discussion is treacherous!
lifeisgood [-\]: does o2 even work?
AzureSea [4d\]: back to the game...:)
hallelujah [?\]: yup, just step away from any rank discussion
AzureSea [4d\]: o2 doesnt work cuz b can make it a ko
MXHero [4d\]: b S5 soon
lifeisgood [-\]: what if o2, n4
AzureSea [4d\]: then w n2
xio [5k\]: n2 taken
AzureSea [4d\]: sorry n1
Jermelle [-\]: My brother looks me out of my own room and then when I unlock it I open the door and the door hits him in the face, it's not my fault because what was he doing in my room in the first place
awesome [4k\]: lol
Tabemasu [2d?\]: w has to reduce the center to zero and get other big endgame points...
AzureSea [4d\]: irrelevant jermelle...
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;B[pg]C[ThiGar [3k\]: first b q13, sente on r9, then b p16, then, b p14
]
;W[li]
;B[rh]C[AzureSea [4d\]: O.O
Dita [1d\]: O_o
AzureSea [4d\]: oh snap did w just die?
passstab [5k\]: p10?
MXHero [4d\]: wow, w has a plan for sure
AzureSea [4d\]: oh no lol he's alive
Wagaboo [2k\]: :Ob is sure about the libs ?
Jermelle [-\]: Oh o.o
MXHero [4d\]: monster trade, maybe
Jermelle [-\]: wow B has no heart
AzureSea [4d\]: b has to k12 next
xio [5k\]: his name is alive
AzureSea [4d\]: unless he thinks he can kill
frozensoul [-\]: white aims to attack topside black now?
Dita [1d\]: P10 no choice?
frozensoul [-\]: for trade?
frozensoul [-\]: hmmm
Dita [1d\]: hmmm
Illyria [?\]: does w have the libs for p10?
passstab [5k\]: hmmmm
AzureSea [4d\]: k9 theres a cut
Wagaboo [2k\]: hmmmm
MXHero [4d\]: w has the libs for getting p10 in sente
AzureSea [4d\]: very interesting...
tesdfs: k9 cut trivial
tesdfs: w wants to kill g12
copyright [3d\]: p10 
Weishenme [4d\]: p10
Merlot [1k\]: P10
AzureSea [4d\]: p10 works i think
Tabemasu [2d?\]: p10 doesn't work
Tabemasu [2d?\]: w will die
AzureSea [4d\]: oh?
AzureSea [4d\]: how?
tesdfs: w will die, but will kill top
USGO1 [-\]: there's a large crowd gathering around the table now, all trying to read the game status for themselves
AzureSea [4d\]: what'd b respond to that
tesdfs: no other way
Illyria [?\]: I trust tabemasu
Tabemasu [2d?\]: p10 s5 r6 s8 r8 s9 s10 r7 t8 t6 t9 s8 
MXHero [4d\]: p10 works -as a sacrifice and a sente cut-
Tabemasu [2d?\]: gmm
Tabemasu [2d?\]: hmm
Tabemasu [2d?\]: maybe i misread
hallelujah [?\]: well w can't live locally so it's p10 or resign
AzureSea [4d\]: no tabemasu
AzureSea [4d\]: you're correct
AzureSea [4d\]: i follow
frozensoul [-\]: multistep ko perhaps with tabemasus sequence
AzureSea [4d\]: white will die
AzureSea [4d\]: wel yeah
AzureSea [4d\]: ko
AzureSea [4d\]: but w probably will lose the ko
frozensoul [-\]: white has ko factories
frozensoul [-\]: lol
AzureSea [4d\]: lol
frozensoul [-\]: he should probably count his threats tho
death101 [?\]: naho
Tabemasu [2d?\]: oh yeah, i didn't
Tabemasu [2d?\]: haha
AzureSea [4d\]: xD
Tabemasu [2d?\]: i had a liberty illusion
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;W[oj]
;B[ro]C[frozensoul [-\]: tabemasu
bengozen [5k\]: USGO1, how much time does White have left?
]
;W[rl]C[Jermelle [-\]: o.o
]
;B[qn]
;W[sk]C[Rukis [1k\]: what
]
;B[jh]C[frozensoul [-\]: when u gunna get ur 7d back?
Jermelle [-\]: wow
MXHero [4d\]: COOL
AzureSea [4d\]: whoops
AzureSea [4d\]: got d/c
awesome [4k\]: so noce
]
;W[ji]C[awesome [4k\]: nice
AzureSea [4d\]: oh wow
Jermelle [-\]: W can do this XD
AzureSea [4d\]: white managed to live
]
;B[ha]C[AzureSea [4d\]: and only lost 2 stones
Tabemasu [2d?\]: but loses so many points
frozensoul [-\]: yea
Tabemasu [2d?\]: needs to kill in the center now somehow
frozensoul [-\]: blacks lead just ot bigger
frozensoul [-\]: about 20~
AzureSea [4d\]: k9 cut is so tempting
frozensoul [-\]: i think
bengozen [5k\]: black is aiming to start a ko with F19 no?
Rukis [1k\]: black has had a lead over 10 throught the game though
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;W[ia]C[AzureSea [4d\]: yeah white is low on territory
AzureSea [4d\]: that center seems so wide open though i feel like white can do something
frozensoul [-\]: 10 is managable
frozensoul [-\]: agains 1p
frozensoul [-\]: 1p has crappy yose most of the time
]
;B[gf]C[AzureSea [4d\]: lol
AzureSea [4d\]: if u say so :P
frozensoul [-\]: 20 however
Rukis [1k\]: dont we all xD
AzureSea [4d\]: white gonna go for ko?
USGO1 [-\]: Matthew lazily drops that stone into place
AzureSea [4d\]: "lazily" xD
Merlot [1k\]: ko, huge
tesdfs: game is already over
Tabemasu [2d?\]: yeah
AzureSea [4d\]: that straight line of stones from q6 to q13 lol
tesdfs: w got bullied around too much
AzureSea [4d\]: white's fuseki wasn't good enough
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;W[cb]C[AzureSea [4d\]: black took an early lead and hasn't let up
tesdfs: not a bad effort against a stronger player
tesdfs: expected result
]
;B[fg]C[MXHero [4d\]: no
]
;W[ca]C[AzureSea [4d\]: not really
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;B[fa]C[Illyria [?\]: didn't b win the open last year?
Beef [3d\]: free ko
]
;W[ga]C[hallelujah [?\]: ko is too big
]
;B[lf]C[Rukis [1k\]: no
AzureSea [4d\]: useless ko
AzureSea [4d\]: b+res
frozensoul [-\]: agreed
frozensoul [-\]: too much now
AzureSea [4d\]: yeah
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;W[ld]
;B[fa]C[AzureSea [4d\]: w has nothing big enough
frozensoul [-\]: *takes the pot of cash and sneaks out*
AzureSea [4d\]: well maybe r15
hallelujah [?\]: no threTA
MXHero [4d\]: A14 :(
]
;W[af]C[AzureSea [4d\]: r15 decent threat
]
;B[ad]C[AzureSea [4d\]: oh a14 xD
]
;W[ga]C[AzureSea [4d\]: didnt even see that haha
hallelujah [?\]: ahh, 1 threat. okay
guapo [1k\]: man s12 is soo cool
frozensoul [-\]: ko was probably only way
frozensoul [-\]: to continue there
guapo [1k\]: who wouldn't have p10
AzureSea [4d\]: lol i called the ko too xD
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;B[kh]
;W[hb]C[AzureSea [4d\]: no choice here w must h18
AzureSea [4d\]: yup
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;B[ki]C[Jermelle [-\]: ;o
frozensoul [-\]: resignsuji
AzureSea [4d\]: white has like no points though
AzureSea [4d\]: im going to count again
Illyria [?\]: b didn't care about the ko...
MXHero [4d\]: K10
USGO1 [-\]: white resigns here
frozensoul [-\]: calld it
MXHero [4d\]: oh lib problem, i see
AzureSea [4d\]: not surprising :O
guapo [1k\]: thx
sestir [3d\]: gg
awesome [4k\]: thanks usgo
MXHero [4d\]: cool game!
Illyria [?\]: thanks for recording usgo
AzureSea [4d\]: well that was a good game :)
AzureSea [4d\]: thanks usgo
Tabemasu [2d?\]: thanks usgo
USGO1 [-\]: Thanks for watching!
frozensoul [-\]: so azure
Tabemasu [2d?\]: good game
WackOu [2d\]: B was just way too strong
bengozen [5k\]: thanks usgo1!
frozensoul [-\]: we gunna play later ;D
passstab [5k\]: thank you usgo
AzureSea [4d\]: lol sure
frozensoul [-\]: i need to get beatn back into shape
frozensoul [-\]: xD
AzureSea [4d\]: lol you'll probably beat me
AzureSea [4d\]: you're 5d :O
frozensoul [-\]: naww
frozensoul [-\]: my styles changing
Wagaboo [2k\]: that's no resign suji !
frozensoul [-\]: T.T
AzureSea [4d\]: :P
WackOu [2d\]: hey you score counters, whaddya think the final score would be after this position?
Wagaboo [2k\]: b got a move for free
frozensoul [-\]: *eats wagaboo*
AzureSea [4d\]: b winning by at least 20
svl [11k\]: is m5 alive? just curious
AzureSea [4d\]: m5 is alive
bengozen [5k\]: yesh
frozensoul [-\]: black by about 18-20
Wagaboo [2k\]: b is ok
AzureSea [4d\]: if that was dead white would've resigned a while ago
frozensoul [-\]: probably
svl [11k\]: ty
bengozen [5k\]: M6 / P7 miai
lifeisgood [-\]: still wondering how o2 works--where does w get 2nd eye?
Rukis [1k\]: life.. m6 and p7 are miai
WackOu [2d\]: m6 and p7 miai
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